Comments on: Resurrection and What’s *that* in Your Veins? http://boaporg.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/resurrection-and-whats-that-in-your-veins/ Stuff BOAP is doing Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:20:19 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: boaporg http://boaporg.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/resurrection-and-whats-that-in-your-veins/#comment-50 boaporg Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:40:42 +0000 http://boaporg.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-50 Right, PPP posits that all the organs are there in spirit. Both the Pratts were very literal in their views about pre and post mortal bodies. For them the analogy was perfect. In some ways JS was a theological brake. When he was gone, the twelve felt a sort of freedom to develop and express their views. Woodruff shows this in a journal entry during the first trip to the Salt Lake valley. OP and A. Carrington were walking along with WW. OP proceeds to tell his idea, as a speculation, about atomic intelligence. Then it appears years later in print without apology. Compression of spirits makes them forget. Stuff like that. Taking a step from spirit (instead of blood) to spirit babies as an explanation is not a big leap comparatively. The idea of spirit babies of course is much more entrenched and you can get severe looks for suggesting it is metaphorical or adoptive say - so never do that in Sunday School. I almost got my head singed for suggesting that the Marsh strippings story was not anything like the real reason behind the break. Anyway, important point. Right, PPP posits that all the organs are there in spirit. Both the Pratts were very literal in their views about pre and post mortal bodies. For them the analogy was perfect. In some ways JS was a theological brake. When he was gone, the twelve felt a sort of freedom to develop and express their views.

Woodruff shows this in a journal entry during the first trip to the Salt Lake valley. OP and A. Carrington were walking along with WW. OP proceeds to tell his idea, as a speculation, about atomic intelligence. Then it appears years later in print without apology. Compression of spirits makes them forget. Stuff like that. Taking a step from spirit (instead of blood) to spirit babies as an explanation is not a big leap comparatively.

The idea of spirit babies of course is much more entrenched and you can get severe looks for suggesting it is metaphorical or adoptive say – so never do that in Sunday School. I almost got my head singed for suggesting that the Marsh strippings story was not anything like the real reason behind the break.

Anyway, important point.

]]> By: J. Stapley http://boaporg.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/resurrection-and-whats-that-in-your-veins/#comment-49 J. Stapley Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:46:00 +0000 http://boaporg.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-49 ...also, isn't it Parley P. Pratt that goes on to posit spirit organs for spirits? I want to say it is in <em>Key to the Science of Theology. I think such ideas go a long way to illustrate the analogical perspective within which many of the early Saints worked. …also, isn’t it Parley P. Pratt that goes on to posit spirit organs for spirits? I want to say it is in Key to the Science of Theology. I think such ideas go a long way to illustrate the analogical perspective within which many of the early Saints worked.

]]> By: J. Stapley http://boaporg.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/resurrection-and-whats-that-in-your-veins/#comment-48 J. Stapley Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:43:28 +0000 http://boaporg.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-48 I think your cautious framing of the issue is accurate and important. The folk explanation (based on a JS Sermon) that resurrected have spirit instead of blood and consequently procreate to yield spirits is, I believe, one of the most peculiar bits of religion making we have. I think your cautious framing of the issue is accurate and important. The folk explanation (based on a JS Sermon) that resurrected have spirit instead of blood and consequently procreate to yield spirits is, I believe, one of the most peculiar bits of religion making we have.

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